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CNBC’s Jim Cramer expressed concerns about the fundamentals of Casper Sleep‘s business ahead of the online mattress startup’s Thursday debut as a publicly traded stock.

Shares opened at $14.50, an over 20% increase from its offering price.

“The losses here are staggering” for the business, Cramer said on “Squawk on the Street.”

Casper, which started out selling mattresses on the internet five years ago, lost $92.1 million in 2018 and $73.4 million in 2017 on net revenues of $357.9 million in 2018 and $250.9 million in 2017. Casper has both high-profile investors, such as actor Leonardo DiCaprio, and high-profile partnerships with the retailers such as Costco and Amazon.

The New York-based company announced plans for an initial public offering in early January and had initially planned to price its shares between $17 and $19.

However, Casper ended up pricing its IPO on Wednesday evening at $12 per share, giving the company a market value of $476 million. That’s dramatically lower than the $1.1 billion valuation from its latest round of private funding.

“They may have priced it to move,” the “Mad Money” host said, referencing a strategy in which companies lower their offering price in hopes of creating a first-day pop, which indeed happened.

“You cut and cut and cut; you can get a deal to work, any deal to work,” he added. If shares are priced too high on their first day, they could fall and create less-than-ideal optics.

Philip Krim, 36, co-founder and CEO of Casper later told CNBC on Thursday that “valuations are moments in time” and his focus is on the future and growing the company.

Appearing on “Squawk Alley” shortly after the stock opened higher, Krim said, “I feel awesome. It’s been a great day. It’s an awesome milestone for Casper. So I’m pumped.”

Casper’s IPO is taking place in a “post-WeWork apocalypse” world, Cramer said.

The WeWork saga is viewed by many as a turning point for how public market investors view money-losing startups, helping to shift focus away from growth at all costs and reemphasizing the bottom line and a path toward profitability.

The coworking company pulled its IPO and booted its CEO, Adam Neumann, in September following backlash over WeWork’s governance and valuation ahead of its expected offering. WeWork had picked up a $47 billion valuation in the private markets, but some public investors came to value the company as low as $10 billion.

Cramer said he thought Casper ultimately was wise to lower its price-per-share targets before it began trading to avoid the pitfall of tighter valuation scrutiny in the current climate in the public markets.

“This is one of those deals where if they had brought it higher it would have been crushed,” he said. “They really have been very good about where to do it. It’s a very small deal.”

While Casper began selling mattresses online through a direct-to-consumer model, it has since 60 opened retail stores, with goals to have upwards of 200. It also expanded its product offerings to include bedroom furniture and fixtures such as pillows and lamps.

But Cramer cast doubt on long-term demand around Casper’s core product. “It’s a bed that is mailed … It’s not exactly Clorox wipes when you’re on a subway car, in terms of demand.”

Cramer also weighed-in on Twitter on Casper’s IPO before the stock market opened Thursday.

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Japan’s SoftBank returns to profit after gains at Vision Fund and other investments

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TOKYO (AP) — Japanese technology group SoftBank swung back to profitability in the July-September quarter, boosted by positive results in its Vision Fund investments.

Tokyo-based SoftBank Group Corp. reported Tuesday a fiscal second quarter profit of nearly 1.18 trillion yen ($7.7 billion), compared with a 931 billion yen loss in the year-earlier period.

Quarterly sales edged up about 6% to nearly 1.77 trillion yen ($11.5 billion).

SoftBank credited income from royalties and licensing related to its holdings in Arm, a computer chip-designing company, whose business spans smartphones, data centers, networking equipment, automotive, consumer electronic devices, and AI applications.

The results were also helped by the absence of losses related to SoftBank’s investment in office-space sharing venture WeWork, which hit the previous fiscal year.

WeWork, which filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection in 2023, emerged from Chapter 11 in June.

SoftBank has benefitted in recent months from rising share prices in some investment, such as U.S.-based e-commerce company Coupang, Chinese mobility provider DiDi Global and Bytedance, the Chinese developer of TikTok.

SoftBank’s financial results tend to swing wildly, partly because of its sprawling investment portfolio that includes search engine Yahoo, Chinese retailer Alibaba, and artificial intelligence company Nvidia.

SoftBank makes investments in a variety of companies that it groups together in a series of Vision Funds.

The company’s founder, Masayoshi Son, is a pioneer in technology investment in Japan. SoftBank Group does not give earnings forecasts.

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Trump campaign promises unlikely to harm entrepreneurship: Shopify CFO

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Shopify Inc. executives brushed off concerns that incoming U.S. President Donald Trump will be a major detriment to many of the company’s merchants.

“There’s nothing in what we’ve heard from Trump, nor would there have been anything from (Democratic candidate) Kamala (Harris), which we think impacts the overall state of new business formation and entrepreneurship,” Shopify’s chief financial officer Jeff Hoffmeister told analysts on a call Tuesday.

“We still feel really good about all the merchants out there, all the entrepreneurs that want to start new businesses and that’s obviously not going to change with the administration.”

Hoffmeister’s comments come a week after Trump, a Republican businessman, trounced Harris in an election that will soon return him to the Oval Office.

On the campaign trail, he threatened to impose tariffs of 60 per cent on imports from China and roughly 10 per cent to 20 per cent on goods from all other countries.

If the president-elect makes good on the promise, many worry the cost of operating will soar for companies, including customers of Shopify, which sells e-commerce software to small businesses but also brands as big as Kylie Cosmetics and Victoria’s Secret.

These merchants may feel they have no choice but to pass on the increases to customers, perhaps sparking more inflation.

If Trump’s tariffs do come to fruition, Shopify’s president Harley Finkelstein pointed out China is “not a huge area” for Shopify.

However, “we can’t anticipate what every presidential administration is going to do,” he cautioned.

He likened the uncertainty facing the business community to the COVID-19 pandemic where Shopify had to help companies migrate online.

“Our job is no matter what comes the way of our merchants, we provide them with tools and service and support for them to navigate it really well,” he said.

Finkelstein was questioned about the forthcoming U.S. leadership change on a call meant to delve into Shopify’s latest earnings, which sent shares soaring 27 per cent to $158.63 shortly after Tuesday’s market open.

The Ottawa-based company, which keeps its books in U.S. dollars, reported US$828 million in net income for its third quarter, up from US$718 million in the same quarter last year, as its revenue rose 26 per cent.

Revenue for the period ended Sept. 30 totalled US$2.16 billion, up from US$1.71 billion a year earlier.

Subscription solutions revenue reached US$610 million, up from US$486 million in the same quarter last year.

Merchant solutions revenue amounted to US$1.55 billion, up from US$1.23 billion.

Shopify’s net income excluding the impact of equity investments totalled US$344 million for the quarter, up from US$173 million in the same quarter last year.

Daniel Chan, a TD Cowen analyst, said the results show Shopify has a leadership position in the e-commerce world and “a continued ability to gain market share.”

In its outlook for its fourth quarter of 2024, the company said it expects revenue to grow at a mid-to-high-twenties percentage rate on a year-over-year basis.

“Q4 guidance suggests Shopify will finish the year strong, with better-than-expected revenue growth and operating margin,” Chan pointed out in a note to investors.

This report by The Canadian Press was first published Nov. 12, 2024.

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RioCan cuts nearly 10 per cent staff in efficiency push as condo market slows

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TORONTO – RioCan Real Estate Investment Trust says it has cut almost 10 per cent of its staff as it deals with a slowdown in the condo market and overall pushes for greater efficiency.

The company says the cuts, which amount to around 60 employees based on its last annual filing, will mean about $9 million in restructuring charges and should translate to about $8 million in annualized cash savings.

The job cuts come as RioCan and others scale back condo development plans as the market softens, but chief executive Jonathan Gitlin says the reductions were from a companywide efficiency effort.

RioCan says it doesn’t plan to start any new construction of mixed-use properties this year and well into 2025 as it adjusts to the shifting market demand.

The company reported a net income of $96.9 million in the third quarter, up from a loss of $73.5 million last year, as it saw a $159 million boost from a favourable change in the fair value of investment properties.

RioCan reported what it says is a record-breaking 97.8 per cent occupancy rate in the quarter including retail committed occupancy of 98.6 per cent.

This report by The Canadian Press was first published Nov. 12, 2024.

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