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Blue Jays Add Starting Pitching: A look at the system's starting rotations – Jays From the Couch

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The Blue Jays have added three, maybe four, starting pitchers. How has this affected the minor league team’s rotations?

The offseason started off slowly for the Blue Jays Front Office. They were under fire for missing out on several Free Agents but that’s nothing new for this Front Office. Ross Atkins and Mark Shapiro have not enured themselves to this fanbase. According to many fans, Ross Atkins should not be trusted to make the big trade or to sign the big Free Agents. These same fans, feel Shapiro doesn’t care about building a winner, that his only goal is to make money for Rogers.

With the additions of Hyun-Jin Ryu, Tanner Roark, Chase Anderson, and Shun Yamaguchi the Blue Jays have completely reshaped their pitching staff. This group is not and likely will not be considered with the top rotations in baseball but they should give Toronto a chance to win on most days. This club might still be one or two years away from becoming serious contenders, these additions have elevated the club from a potential 90 loss team to a possible .500 club.

Maybe, more importantly, these additions will improve the depth of starting pitching in the system. Guys who were eyeing up a spot in the rotation in the Spring will have a steeper hill to climb. Competition is never a bad thing.

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I’ve listed the potential rotations in Toronto, Buffalo, New Hampshire, Dunedin, and Lansing. I’ve listed 6 starters for each level. I’ve also included a list at the end which includes guys I feel are on the outside looking in at rotation spots. Lastly, I included a couple of names at the end who could surprise and grab a rotation spot, most likely in Lansing.

Toronto Blue Jays

Hyun-Jin Ryu (32)

Tanner Roark (33)

Chase Anderson (32)

Matt Shoemaker (33)

Ryan Borucki (25)

Shun Yamaguchi (31)

A much more experienced group of starter compared to last year. However, this rotation comes with risk. Ryu, Shoemaker, and Borucki have not been the most durable. That is what makes the additions of Anderson and Roark so important. Anderson and Roark should eat innings, give the bullpen a chance at not throwing pitches in the 3rd or 4th innings, and possibly reduce the need to use an Opener.

Shun Yamaguchi is my 6th starter. He will step in if any of the other 5 falter.

Buffalo Bisons AAA

Nate Pearson (23)

Anthony Kay (24)

Trent Thornton (26)

T.J. Zeuch (24)

Sean Reid-Foley (24)

Jacob Waguespack (26)

A lot of discussions can be had about the Blue Jays Triple-A rotation. I feel that Pearson, Kay, and Zeuch are locks to start 2020 with Buffalo. On the other hand, I feel as though Thornton and SRF could find themselves pitching out the bullpen……in Toronto. I would like to see Thornton and SRF continue to develop as SP but understand the need for BP arms. Thomas Pannone is another guy who may have lost his chance at starting for the Blue Jays.

Waguespack could play the all-important swingman role. He could be the Bisons 6th starter and the Blue Jays spot starter.

New Hampshire Fisher Cats AA

Yennsy Diaz (23)

Patrick Murphy (24)

Hector Perez (23)

Thomas Hatch (25)

Joey Murray (23)

Maximo Castillo (20)


Diaz, Hatch, and Perez were set to pitching in Triple-A in 2020. It now seems more likely that they will return to Double-A or head to the bullpen. Perez has the stuff to become an impact bullpen, now might be the time to begin that transition. Diaz’ projection is that of a 5th starter or bullpen, like Perez, now might be the time to make the switch. Murphy had to make some adjustments to his delivery which resulted in some arm soreness. If Murphy can show he is healthy and can be effective with a new delivery than he could push for a spot in Buffalo.

Dunedin Blue Jays A-Advanced

Elvis Luciano (19)

Simeon Woods Richardson (19)

Eric Pardinho (19)

Josh Winckowski (21)

Sean Wymer (22)

Alek Manoah (22)

The D-Jays are going to have a very interesting rotation. After spending time in the Blue Jays bullpen as a Rule 5 pick Luciano should return to starting. He will be joined by fellow 19-yr-olds SWR and Pardinho. I have Pardinho in Dunedin because of the training staff and he did look really good with Lansing when he was healthy. This level could see a couple of piggyback tandems to limit and build up inning limits. This will open the door for former 4th rounder Sean Wymer who wasn’t great with the Lugnuts in 2019. It will also allow last year’s 1st round pick Alek Manoah to bypass Lansing.

Lansing Lugnuts A-Ball

Adam Kloffenstein (19)

Kendall Williams (19)

Alex Nolan (23)

Nick Fraze (22)

William Gaston (23)

Grant Townsend (22)

Edisson Gonzalez (20)

The Lugs should have three 20-ish-year-old pitchers. Kloff, Williams, and Gonzo should see some piggyback starts. This will allow some of the older guys to remain stretched out and get some starts. Gaston is a 6-foot-5 righty out of La Habana, Cuba. He pitched well in Vancouver and should get a chance at the club’s 5th spot in the rotation.

Vying for Starts

Andrew Sopko (25) (Buffalo)

Julian Merryweather (28) (Toronto’s BP or Buffalo SP, If healthy)

Justin Dillon (26) (Buffalo/NH)

Jon Harris (26) (Buffalo, If healthy)

Graham Spraker (24) (NH)

Turner Larkins (24) (NH)

Zach Logue (23) (NH)

Nick Allgeyer (23) (NH)

Curtis Taylor (24) (NH)

Fitz Stadler (22) (D-Jays)

Troy Miller (22) (D-Jays)

Troy Watson (22) (D-Jays)

Juan De Paula (22) (????)

Juan Diaz (21) (Lansing)

Luis Quinones (22) (Lansing after Suspension)


Gabriel Ponce (20) (Lansing)

Possible Surprises

Jol Concepcion (21)

Roither Hernandez (21)

Naswell Paulino (19)

Sam Ryan (21)

Winder Garcia (18)

It seems as though more than half the teams in Baseball are not trying to win. They are either rebuilding or retooling. There is only a hand full of teams actually trying to win the World Series. This way of running a team or building a winner has broken baseball for many fanbases.

The Blue Jays will field a competitive MLB roster in 2020. Despite playing in one of the toughest divisions in baseball, they will field a youthful team with exciting talent. Just because you play in the AL East doesn’t mean you shouldn’t try to compete. This defeatist mindset in baseball sucks. The league shouldn’t consist of 10 teams trying to win and 21 teams trying to lose as much as possible.

Ryu is a clear upgrade for a team that appeared thin on starting pitching. He’s risky, sure, but he’s a clear step in the right direction towards trying to win baseball games. He also buys time for the guys listed above to develop.

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NHL teams, take note: Alexandar Georgiev is proof that anything can happen in the playoffs

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It’s hard to say when, exactly, Alexandar Georgiev truly began to win some hearts and change some minds on Tuesday night.

Maybe it was in the back half of the second period; that was when the Colorado Avalanche, for the first time in their first-round Stanley Cup playoff series against the Winnipeg Jets, actually managed to hold a lead for more than, oh, two minutes or thereabouts. Maybe it was when the Avs walked into the locker room up 4-2 with 20 minutes to play.

Maybe it was midway through the third, when a series of saves by the Avalanche’s beleaguered starting goaltender helped preserve their two-goal buffer. Maybe it was when the buzzer sounded after their 5-2 win. Maybe it didn’t happen until the Avs made it into their locker room at Canada Life Centre, tied 1-1 with the Jets and headed for Denver.

At some point, though, it should’ve happened. If you were watching, you should’ve realized that Colorado — after a 7-6 Game 1 loss that had us all talking not just about all those goals, but at least one of the guys who’d allowed them — had squared things up, thanks in part to … well, that same guy.

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Georgiev, indeed, was the story of Game 2, stopping 28 of 30 shots, improving as the game progressed and providing a lesson on how quickly things can change in the playoffs — series to series, game to game, period to period, moment to moment. The narrative doesn’t always hold. Facts don’t always cooperate. Alexandar Georgiev, for one night and counting, was not a problem for the Colorado Avalanche. He was, in direct opposition to the way he played in Game 1, a solution. How could we view him as anything else?

He had a few big-moment saves, and most of them came midway through the third period with his team up 4-2. There he was with 12:44 remaining, stopping a puck that had awkwardly rolled off Nino Niederreiter’s stick; two missed posts by the Avs at the other end had helped spring Niederreiter for a breakaway. Game 1 Georgiev doesn’t make that save.

There he was, stopping Nikolaj Ehlers from the circle a few minutes later. There wasn’t an Avs defender within five feet, and there was nothing awkward about the puck Ehlers fired at his shoulder. Game 1 Georgiev gets scored on twice.

(That one might’ve been poetic justice. It was Ehlers who’d put the first puck of the night on Georgiev — a chip from center ice that he stopped, and that the crowd in Winnipeg greeted with the ol’ mock cheer. Whoops.)

By the end of it all, Georgiev had stared down Connor Hellebuyck and won, saving nearly 0.5 goals more than expected according to Natural Stat Trick, giving the Avalanche precisely what they needed and looking almost nothing like the guy we’d seen a couple days before. Conventional wisdom coming into this series was twofold: That the Avs have firepower, high-end talent and an overall edge — slight as it may be — on Winnipeg, and that Georgiev is shaky enough to nuke the whole thing.

That wasn’t without merit, either. Georgiev’s .897 save percentage in the regular season was six percentage points below the league average, and he hadn’t broken even in expected goals allowed (minus-0.21). He’d been even worse down the stretch, putting up an .856 save percentage in his final eight appearances, and worse still in Game 1, allowing seven goals on 23 shots and more than five goals more than expected. That’s not bad; that’s an oil spill. Writing him off would’ve been understandable. Writing off Jared Bednar for rolling him out there in Game 2 would’ve been understandable. Writing the Avs off — for all of Nathan MacKinnon and Cale Makar’s greatness — would’ve been understandable.

It just wouldn’t have been correct.

The fact that this all went down now, four days into a two-month ordeal, is a gift — because the postseason thus far has been short on surprises, almost as a rule. The Rangers and Oilers are overwhelming the Capitals and Kings. The Hurricanes are halfway done with the Islanders. The Canucks are struggling with the Predators. PanthersLightning is tight, but one team is clearly better than the other. BruinsMaple Leafs is a close matchup featuring psychic baggage that we don’t have time to unpack. In Golden KnightsStars, Mark Stone came back and scored a huge goal.

None of that should shock you. None of that should make you blink.

Georgiev being good enough for Colorado, though? After what we saw in Game 1? Strange, surprising and completely true. For now.

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"Laugh it off": Evander Kane says Oilers won’t take the bait against Kings | Offside

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The LA Kings tried every trick in the book to get the Edmonton Oilers off their game last night.

Hacks after the whistle, punches to the face, and interference with line changes were just some of the things that the Oilers had to endure, and throughout it all, there was not an ounce of retaliation.

All that badgering by the Kings resulted in at least two penalties against them and fuelled a red-hot Oilers power play that made them pay with three goals on four chances. That was by design for Edmonton, who knew that LA was going to try to pester them as much as they could.

That may have worked on past Oilers teams, but not this one.

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“We’ve been in a series now for the third year in a row with these guys,” Kane said after practice this morning. “We know them, they know us… it’s one of those things where maybe it makes it a little easier to kind of laugh it off, walk away, or take a shot.

“That type of stuff isn’t gonna affect us.”

Once upon a time, this type of play would get under the Oilers’ skin and result in retaliatory penalties. Yet, with a few hard-knock lessons handed down to them in the past few seasons, it seems like the team is as determined as ever to cut the extracurriculars and focus on getting revenge on the scoreboard.

Ryan Nugent-Hopkins, the longest-tenured player on this Oilers team, had to keep his emotions in check with Kings defender Vladislav Gavrikov, who punched him in the face early in the game. The easy reaction would be to punch back, but the veteran Nugen-Hopkins took his licks and wound up scoring later in the game.

“It’s going to be physical, the emotions are high, and there’s probably going to be some stuff after the whistle,” Nugent-Hopkins told reporters this morning. “I think it’s important to stay poised out there and not retaliate and just play through the whistles and let the other stuff just kind of happen.”

Oilers head coach Kris Knoblauch also noticed his team’s discipline. Playoff hockey is full of emotion, and keeping those in check to focus on the larger goal is difficult. He was happy with how his team set the tone.

“It’s not necessarily easy to do,” Knoblauch said. “You get punched in the face and sometimes the referees feel it’s enough to call a penalty, sometimes it’s not… You just have to take them, and sometimes, you get rewarded with the power play.

“I liked our guy’s response and we want to be sticking up for each other, we want to have that pack mentality, but it’s really important that we’re not the ones taking that extra penalty.”

There is no doubt that the Kings will continue to poke and prod at the Oilers as the series continues. Keeping those retaliations in check will only get more difficult, but if the team can continue to succeed on the scoreboard, it could get easier.

 

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Thatcher Demko injured, out for Game 2 between Canucks and Predators – Vancouver Is Awesome

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Thatcher Demko returned from injury just in time for the start of the Stanley Cup Playoffs but now is injured again.

After the Vancouver Canucks’ victory in Game 1, Demko was not made available to the media as he was “receiving treatment.” This is not unusual, so was not heavily reported at the time. Monday’s practice was turned into an optional skate — just nine players participated — so Demko’s absence did not seem particularly significant.

But when Demko was also missing from Tuesday’s gameday skate, alarm bells started going off.

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According to multiple reports — and now the Canucks’ head coach, Rick Tocchet —Demko will not play in Game 2 and is in fact questionable for the rest of their series against the Nashville Predators.

Demko made 22 saves on 24 shots, none bigger — and potentially injury-inducing — than his first-period save on Anthony Beauvillier where he went into the full splits.

While this is not necessarily where Demko got injured, it would be understandable if it was. Demko still stayed in the game and didn’t seem to be experiencing any difficulties at the time.

Demko is a major difference-maker for the Canucks and his injury casts a pall over the team’s emotional Game 1 victory

Tocchet confirmed that Demko will not start in Game 2 but said Demko did skate on Monday on his own. He also said that Demko’s injury is unrelated to the knee injury he suffered during the season that caused him to miss five weeks. Instead, Tocchet suggested Demko was day-to-day, leaving open the possibility for his return in the first round. 

TSN’s Farhan Lalji, however, has reported that Demko’s injury could indeed be to the same knee, even if it is not the same exact injury.

If Demko does indeed miss the rest of the series, the pressure will be on Casey DeSmith, who had a strong season when called upon intermittently as the team’s backup but struggled when thrust into the number-one role when Demko was injured. Behind DeSmith is rookie Arturs Silovs, who has come through with heroic performances in international competition for Latvia but hasn’t been able to repeat those performances at the NHL level.

DeSmith played one game against the Predators this season, making 26 saves on 28 shots in a 5-2 victory in December.

While DeSmith has limited experience in the Stanley Cup Playoffs, his one appearance was spectacular.

On May 3, 2022, DeSmith had to step in for the injured Tristan Jarry for the Pittsburgh Penguins, starting their first postseason game against the New York Rangers. DeSmith made 48 saves on 51 shots before leaving the game in the second overtime with an injury of his own, with Louis Domingue stepping in to make 17 more saves for the win.

The Canucks will look to allow significantly fewer than 51 shots on Tuesday night.

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