China’s Huawei Technologies Co Ltd is in early-stage talks to sell its premium smartphone brands P and Mate, two people with direct knowledge of the matter said, a move that could see the company eventually exit from the high-end smartphone-making business.
The talks between the world’s largest telecommunications equipment maker and a consortium led by Shanghai government-backed investment firms have been going on for months, the people said, declining to be identified as the discussions were confidential.
Huawei started to internally explore the possibility of selling the brands as early as last September, according to one of the sources. The two sources were not privy to the valuation placed on the brands by Huawei.
Shipments of Mate and P Series phones were worth $39.7 billion between Q3 2019 and Q3 2020, according to consultancy IDC.
However, Huawei has yet to make a final decision on the sale and the talks might not conclude successfully, according to the two sources, as the company is still trying to manufacture at home its in-house designed high-end Kirin chips which power its smartphones.
“Huawei has learned there are unsubstantiated rumors circulating regarding the possible sale of our flagship smartphone brands,” a Huawei spokesman said. “There is no merit to these rumors whatsoever. Huawei has no such plan.”
The Shanghai government said it was not aware of the situation and declined to comment further.
The potential sale of Huawei’s premium smartphone lines suggests the company has little hope that the new Biden administration will have a change of heart towards the supply chain restrictions placed on Huawei since May 2019, the two people said.
The Shanghai government-backed investment firms may form a consortium with Huawei’s dealers to take over the P and Mate brands, according to the second person, a similar model to the Honor deal. Huawei is also likely to keep its existing P& Mate management team for the new entity, if the deal goes through, the two people said.
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Huawei, the world’s biggest telecoms equipment vendor and No.2 smartphone maker, last November announced the sale of its budget phone brand Honor to a consortium of 30 dealers led by a company backed by the Shenzhen government.
The second source said the all-cash sale fetched more than 100 billion yuan ($15.5 billion). Honor declined to comment.
The Honor sale was aimed at keeping the budget brand alive, as sanctions slapped on Huawei by the United States had hampered the unit’s supply chain and cut off the company’s access to key hardware like chips and software such as Alphabet Inc’s Google Mobile Services.
Huawei may have a similar objective in pursuing the sale of the mobile brands. The two sources said that Huawei’s latest plans for the two high-end brands were motivated by insufficient chip supplies.
Washington says that Huawei is a national security threat, which Huawei has repeatedly denied.
On Friday, Honor indicated that the goal of the spin-off had been reached by announcing it had formed partnerships with chip makers such as Intel and Qualcomm and launched a new phone.
Last year, the company’s Consumer Business Group Chief Executive Richard Yu said U.S. restrictions meant Huawei would soon stop making Kirin chips. Analysts expect its stockpile of the chips to run out this year.
Huawei’s HiSilicon division relies on software from U.S. companies such as Cadence Design Systems Inc or Synopsys Inc to design its chips and it outsources the production to Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Co (TSMC), which uses equipment from U.S. companies.
The P and Mate phone series are among the top players in the higher-end smartphone market in China and compete with Apple’s iPhone, Xiaomi Corp’s Mi and Mix series and OPPO’s Find series.
The two brands contributed nearly 40% to Huawei’s total sales over the third quarter of 2020, according to market research firm Counterpoint.
Analysts have already noted recent insufficient supplies of the flagship P40 and Mate40 series due to a severe components shortage.
“We expect a continuous decline in sales of P and Mate series smartphones through Q1 2021,” said Flora Tang, an analyst at Counterpoint.
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Samsung Galaxy Z Flip 4 vs. Galaxy Z Fold 4: Every Big Difference You Should Know About – CNET
Samsung showed off the newest models of its fancy foldable phone lineups on Wednesday, in a continuation of its efforts to take bendable phones to the mainstream. The Unpacked event, were revealed alongside the Galaxy Watch 5 and . The Galaxy Fold 4 and Z Flip 4 will launch on Aug. 26, when they will start at $1,800 (£1,649, AU$2,499) and $1,000 (£999, AU$1,499), respectively — the same price as each of their predecessors.and , announced at the company’s annual
While both phones have a foldable design, the specific look and feel is different for each. The Z Flip 4 is a clamshell-style flip phone popularized by Motorola’s Razr. It’s compact, nostalgically cool and it targets online content creators, among other demographics. The Z Fold 4, on the other hand, is Samsung’s heftier book-style foldable. It’s nearly double the height of the Z Flip 4 when both are folded “closed.” When unfurled, Z Fold 4 expands into a tablet-sized interior screen that Samsung says is a powerful tool for multitasking, which is given a boost by 12GB of RAM.
With the Z Fold 4’s larger size (and higher price), comes a corresponding set of features. There are three rear cameras including a telephoto lens, compared with just two on the Z Flip 2. The Z Fold 4 also manages to cram in a larger battery. Their front displays are different, too. The Z Flip 4 has a petite display on the lower portion of the cover, which Samsung has made more useful with this iteration. The Z Fold 4’s display is nearly the size of a regular phone screen.
Despite their physical differences, perhaps Samsung’s biggest flex was software, and the changes affected both new models. Like the Z Fold 4, the Flip 4 gets the bottom-screen trackpad feature in its Flex Mode — that’s the feature that splits apps between top and bottom portions of the screen when it’s folded halfway. With the updates, you’ll be able to use the bottom half of the screen as a trackpad for navigating the top portion of the screen, supposedly making it easier to manipulate apps in Flex Mode.
Each model also receives nighttime photography improvements that were launched with the Galaxy S22, including night portrait-mode photos. These changes seem to underscore Samsung’s efforts to convince shoppers to switch to a foldable phone — or at the very least generate some interest in one.
For more information on how the Z Flip 4 stacks up against the Z Fold 4, take a look at CNET’s specs chart below for a side-by-side comparison.
Z Fold 4 vs. Z Flip 4
|Galaxy Z Fold 4 5G||Galaxy Z Flip 4|
|Display size, resolution, aspect ratio||Internal: 7.6-inch AMOLED (2176 x 1812 pixels) External: 6.2-inch HD Plus (2,316 x 904)||Main Screen: 6.7-inch FHD+ (2,640 x 1080 pixels; 22:9) Cover Screen: 1.9-inch (260×512 pixels)|
|Dimensions (Millimeters)||Folded: 67.1×155.1×15.8mm (Hinge) ~14.2mm (Sagging). Unfolded: 130.1×155.1×6.3mm||Folded: 71.9×84.9×17.1mm (Hinge) ~15.9mm (Sagging). Unfolded: 71.9×165.2×6.9mm|
|Weight (Ounces, Grams)||9.27 oz; 263g||187g; 6.59 oz|
|Mobile software||Android 12L||Android 12|
|Camera||50-megapixel (main), 12-megapixel (ultra-wide), 10-megapixel (telephoto)||12-megapixel (main), 12-megapixel (ultra-wide)|
|Front-facing camera||4-megapixel (under display), 10-megapixel (front cover)||10-megapixel|
|Processor||Snapdragon 8 Gen Plus 1||Snap 8 Plus Gen 1|
|RAM/Storage||12GB + 256GB/512GB/1TB||8GB+ 128GB/256GB/512GB|
|Battery/Charger||4,400 mAh||3,700 mAh|
|Special features||Foldable phone, 30x optical, 30x space zoom, IPX8, 25-watt fast-charging (no in-box charger)||IPX67, 5G enabled, foldable display, wireless charging, 25W fast charging|
|Price (USD)||$1,800 (256 GB); Pricing for other models TBC||$999|
|Price (GBP)||£1,649 (256GB)||£999|
|Price (AUD)||AU$2,499 (256GB)||AU$1,499|
Motorola moto Razr 2022 vs Samsung Galaxy Z Flip 4 – PhoneArena
and a lower price. Since Motorola said its 2022 foldable will also be released globally, the two clamshell phones to get this year are primed for a specs fight to help you decide.
Motorola Razr 2022 vs Samsung Galaxy Z Flip 4 design and display quality
When comparing the design of the Moto Razr 2022 with the other clamshell king with bendable screen that was announced in concurrence – the Z Flip 4 – we can’t help but notice the more utilitarian, business-like look of the Razr, against the fashionable Flip with its 75 Bespoke color combos. Heck, even the camera island is sticking out on the Motorola phone like on most of them “rigid” phones these days, indicating larger sensors may be in play here.
The front screen of the Moto Razr 2022 is much larger, too, at 2.7 inches against the 1.9-incher of the Galaxy, so you’d be able to see notifications and messages more clearly. At first brush, the Galaxy Z Flip 4 sports the same, and the same 1.9-inch 260 x 512 pixels external panel like its predecessor.
The 120 Hz adaptive refresh rate of the 6.7-inch FHD+ Dynamic AMOLED 2X internal Infinity Flex Display with 2640 x 1080 resolution and 22:9 aspect ratio is still no match for the 144Hz refresh of the Motorola Razr 2022, the highest on a foldable phone.
The fact that Motorola put one of the fastest displays on a phone out there in its clamshell foldable phone is pretty breathtaking, and the slightly lower vertical resolution means that the faster refresh shouldn’t take a much higher toll on the battery compared to the 120Hz rate of the Z Flip 4.
Samsung’s 2022 clamshell foldable has a Bespoke edition, too, which introduces a number of new color combos for the front and back in Yellow, White, Navy, Khaki, Red, as well as for the frame which can be either Silver, or painted in Black or Gold hues.
Motorola Razr 2022 vs Samsung Galaxy Z Flip 4 performance
Coming with the newest Qualcomm Snapdragon 8+ Gen 1 chipset, both the Galaxy Z Flip 4 and the Motorola Razr 2022 carry the fastest processor for Android phones at the moment, and the slightly lower pixel density of the Motorola phone means its performance would surpass that of Samsung’s phone. Provided the display is not running at its maximum 144Hz refresh rate, that is.
The 8GB RAM that come in all Galaxy Z Flip 4 versions, including the top 512GB storage one, is augmented by 50% more RAM in the Moto Razr 2022 for its 12GB/512GB model, making it the most powerful foldable phone ever created when we count the Snapdragon 8+ Gen 1 processor and the 1080p display resolution it has to render.
Motorola Razr 2022 vs Samsung Galaxy Z Flip 4 specs comparison
Motorola Razr 2022 vs Samsung Galaxy Z Flip 4 camera
Besides the most processing and memory power on a foldable phone, Motorola equipped the Razr 2022 with a 50MP main camera sensor and a 13MP ultrawide/macro camera, which is again the most powerful camera set you’d find on a clamshell with a bendy screen.
At a 12MP main wide-angle camera with Samsung’s Dual Pixel autofocus technology and optical image stabilization, as well as an aging 12MP ultrawide cam, the Z Flip 4 is no match, save for the large 1.8 micron pixel size that helps in low-light situations. The 10MP selfie snapper does a good jon as you can see in the camera samples below, but the 32MP front camera of the Razr could churn out more details.
The Motorola Razr 2022 doesn’t carry the new Camcorder mode of the Z Flip 4 that lets you use the phone as, well, a camcorder of yesteryear by bending it 90 degrees and holding the lower part in your palm, while recording and previewing with the upper. Something tells us that you can do just as good on the Razr by holding it in a similar fashion yet using the whole display as a viewfinder instead of its half only.
The Galaxy Z Flip 4’s Camcorder mode
Motorola Razr 2022 vs Samsung Galaxy Z Flip 4 battery life and charging speed
The most important upgrade of the Galaxy Z Flip 4 over the Z Flip 3 is its larger 3700 mAh battery, but the Razr 2022 is not far behind with a 3500 mAh unit. Moreover, Motorola offers faster, 33W charging speeds for the pack, against the 25W charging of the Z Flip 4.
Samsung promises “up to 50% charge in around 30 mins with 25W adapter” but you could expect even shorter charging times with the Motorola Moto Razr 2022. Since its battery has to power and chipset to render less pixels than on the Z Flip 4, any battery life advantages of the Samsung phone stemming from the slightly larger battery capacity would become moot.
Motorola Razr 2022 or Galaxy Z Flip 4, which one to buy?
Barring any unforeseen hardware performance challenges, you’d be better off buying Motorola’s clamshell, rather than the Z Flip 4. It offers more for the same $999.99 base price of the Z Flip 4. Well, now the Razr 2022 price is slightly lower than that of the Z Flip 4, but when it gets released globally, it might get an upward adjustment.
Xiaomi clones the Galaxy Fold, makes it 40% thinner, adds a bigger battery – Ars Technica
If you’re disappointed by Samsung’s relatively slow progress on foldables, say hello to the Xiaomi Mix Fold 2, which looks significantly more advanced than what we saw in this week’s announcement from Samsung. But it’s for China only, of course. Sorry.
The Mix Fold 2 closely follows the layout of the Galaxy Z Fold 4—it’s a book-style foldable that has a phone-like front screen and a tablet-like flexible inner screen. The kicker is that the device is 40 percent thinner when folded up. We’re usually not on board with the smartphone thinness craze, but the thickness of foldables is a major concern. The 16-mm-thick Galaxy Z Fold really fills out your pocket compared to a normal smartphone, so Xiaomi is making progress here.
The Mix Fold 2 is just 11.2 mm thick when folded up, with each half measuring only 5.4 mm. Xiaomi’s phone is dramatically thinner than Samsung’s, and Xiaomi also manages to fit in a slightly bigger 4500 mAh battery (Samsung’s is 4400 mAh). The trick here—aside from Samsung not changing the Fold’s thickness or battery capacity for four years now—is that the Xiaomi foldable is a bit bigger than Samsung’s. When folded up, the Z Fold 4 is 155.1 mm x 67.1 mm x 15.8 mm, while Xiaomi’s device is at 161.6 mm x 73.9 mm x 11.2 mm. That 161.6 mm x 73.9 mm measurement is still smaller than a top-end smartphone, with an S22 Ultra measuring 163.3 mm x 77.9 mm x 8.9 mm.
On the front, you get a 120 Hz, 6.56-inch, 2520×1080 OLED display, while the inner foldable display is a 120 Hz, 8.02-inch, 2160×1914 OLED. Both screens are direct from Samsung Display, and the flexible display is made of the “Flexible Ultra Thin Glass” that Samsung pioneered. Flexible glass provides some rigidity to the otherwise squishy plastic display. The outer layer should still be plastic that you can dent with a fingernail, though.
For specs, you’ve got a pretty normal high-end loadout: a Snapdragon 8+ Gen 1, 12GB of RAM, and generous tiers of storage at 256GB, 512GB, and 1TB. The cameras start with a 1/1.56-inch 50 MP Sony IMX 766, then there’s a 13 MP ultrawide, an 8 MP 2x telephoto, and a 20 MP front camera. The 4500 mAh battery supports 67 W charging.
Starting at RMB 8,999, or about $1,335, Xiaomi’s bigger, better foldable is also cheaper than Samsung’s. The phone goes on sale in China on August 16.
Listing image by Xiaomi
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